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I am in the middle of a full frame up restoration, so the cab is on a special cart and I am in the midst of doing the body work. I said to myself, "SELF... if there is any welding that needs to take place, you gotta do it now so we can get some paint on this thing". That was thought #1, but it couldn't just end there. I have always thought it kind of a waste to have all of that space under the bench seat and not be able to easily get to it. Most truck owners store the jack under there, or maybe some things they don't need to get to frequently. This will change all that.
Solution Criteria
So the wheels started turning and I came up with this. I wanted maximum depth so I cut the openings 4 inches high leaving 3/4" off the floor so the floor mats wouldn't rub. The 4 inch drawer height happens to be the perfect height for the trucks jack and even a normal size fire extinguisher. Other considerations in deciding the width of the drawers were the floor shifter and leaving about 4 inches of unmolested steel in the center of the pedestal to retain its strength. I decided on 16 inches wide by 18 inches deep for the drawers.
Materials List
The plan is to put foam in each drawer to capture and secure the heavier items. There are a few considerations when choosing the proper drawer slides. You want them to be heavy duty and slide very easily, but you do not want a situation where the drawer is slamming against the stops during driving and creating noise. To eliminate the shuffling when closed I went with Slow-Close Drawer Slides that are rated at 150 pounds per drawer. The slow closers really nicely hold the drawers in place when closed.
Now, we don't want a situation where you are slamming on the brakes... picture this in your mind.... the drawer slides open real fast and jambs against the gas pedal and keeps the brake pedal from going down. NoSir, I don't think so! We need to secure those drawers so they simply can't come open during driving. I solved this by putting toolbox locking mechanisms on the drawer face. Due to the slow closers, handles were also necessary. Since the pedestal sits inward from the actual bench seat a bit, you can't see them unless you get out of the truck and look.
I decided on using the seat pedestals metal cutouts for the drawer facing so that when they are closed, everything looks like it belongs there. To do this, use a very thin grinding wheel and stay on the line you drew straight so that you don't have a very nasty looking opening to try and fix. If you take it slow and steady, it will come out fine.
I made the drawer slide mounts out of 1 by 2 rectangular steel tubing. I then made 2 inch square ends to weld on to the rectangular tubing for either bolting front to back on the pedestal or welding them in place by spot welding. I drilled 2 3/8" holes for each spot-weld through the pedestal so it looks really nice. It's very tedious work because you can't mess up the dimensions one little bit. Since it's metal, it is not forgiving and your drawers will be either too tight or too loose if you don't measure a few times before welding. As any drawer installer person knows, when installing the drawer slides, even though you leveled the mounts perfectly, install the slides tilting inward by about 1-2 degrees. That is about the thickness of the screws you use to mount them, not very much at all. This makes them almost close themselves when the drawer is extended, but you want just a slight tendency for them to close, not full on closing.
The drawers themselves are made out of 24 gauge galvanized tin. This made for some irregular painting prep, but was necessary since the place to go get tin drawers made up is your local plumbing and heating contractor. They have all the bending and cutting equipment already since they make duct work everyday. I ended up sandblasting the drawers in my blast cabinet to eliminate the galv and then sanded each surface smooth with 220 grit. Epoxy primer will stick very nicely I think. The cut-outs for the drawer fronts are 4 x 16 inches but the drawers are only 3 inches tall. That seemed to work out the best.
So in review.. I used the following dimensions for each part:
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This article was first published at DevesTechNet.com (c)2015 All Rights Reserved
I am in the middle of a full frame up restoration, so the cab is on a special cart and I am in the midst of doing the body work. I said to myself, "SELF... if there is any welding that needs to take place, you gotta do it now so we can get some paint on this thing". That was thought #1, but it couldn't just end there. I have always thought it kind of a waste to have all of that space under the bench seat and not be able to easily get to it. Most truck owners store the jack under there, or maybe some things they don't need to get to frequently. This will change all that.
Solution Criteria
- No compromising the structural integrity of the seat pedestal.
- The end result must look like it was always there.
- All safety concerns must be thoroughly addressed
- No shaking, rattling, or any obnoxious sounds should come from under the seat.
- Stock spare tire Jack and a Fire Extinguisher will fit in the drawers.
So the wheels started turning and I came up with this. I wanted maximum depth so I cut the openings 4 inches high leaving 3/4" off the floor so the floor mats wouldn't rub. The 4 inch drawer height happens to be the perfect height for the trucks jack and even a normal size fire extinguisher. Other considerations in deciding the width of the drawers were the floor shifter and leaving about 4 inches of unmolested steel in the center of the pedestal to retain its strength. I decided on 16 inches wide by 18 inches deep for the drawers.
Materials List
- 80 inches of 1x2" Rectangular Tubing
- 4 - 18 inch Slow Close Drawer Slides (150lb capacity)
- 2 - Lock Mechanisms (Tool Box type)
- 2 - Window Sash Handles (4 screw)
- 2 - 16" x 18" x 3" 24 gauge galvanized tin Drawers
- Misc scrap metal
Source Drawers out to local HVAC contractor. Locks, Sash Handles, Drawer Slides and Hardware source to local hardware store.
The plan is to put foam in each drawer to capture and secure the heavier items. There are a few considerations when choosing the proper drawer slides. You want them to be heavy duty and slide very easily, but you do not want a situation where the drawer is slamming against the stops during driving and creating noise. To eliminate the shuffling when closed I went with Slow-Close Drawer Slides that are rated at 150 pounds per drawer. The slow closers really nicely hold the drawers in place when closed.
Now, we don't want a situation where you are slamming on the brakes... picture this in your mind.... the drawer slides open real fast and jambs against the gas pedal and keeps the brake pedal from going down. NoSir, I don't think so! We need to secure those drawers so they simply can't come open during driving. I solved this by putting toolbox locking mechanisms on the drawer face. Due to the slow closers, handles were also necessary. Since the pedestal sits inward from the actual bench seat a bit, you can't see them unless you get out of the truck and look.
I decided on using the seat pedestals metal cutouts for the drawer facing so that when they are closed, everything looks like it belongs there. To do this, use a very thin grinding wheel and stay on the line you drew straight so that you don't have a very nasty looking opening to try and fix. If you take it slow and steady, it will come out fine.
I made the drawer slide mounts out of 1 by 2 rectangular steel tubing. I then made 2 inch square ends to weld on to the rectangular tubing for either bolting front to back on the pedestal or welding them in place by spot welding. I drilled 2 3/8" holes for each spot-weld through the pedestal so it looks really nice. It's very tedious work because you can't mess up the dimensions one little bit. Since it's metal, it is not forgiving and your drawers will be either too tight or too loose if you don't measure a few times before welding. As any drawer installer person knows, when installing the drawer slides, even though you leveled the mounts perfectly, install the slides tilting inward by about 1-2 degrees. That is about the thickness of the screws you use to mount them, not very much at all. This makes them almost close themselves when the drawer is extended, but you want just a slight tendency for them to close, not full on closing.
The drawers themselves are made out of 24 gauge galvanized tin. This made for some irregular painting prep, but was necessary since the place to go get tin drawers made up is your local plumbing and heating contractor. They have all the bending and cutting equipment already since they make duct work everyday. I ended up sandblasting the drawers in my blast cabinet to eliminate the galv and then sanded each surface smooth with 220 grit. Epoxy primer will stick very nicely I think. The cut-outs for the drawer fronts are 4 x 16 inches but the drawers are only 3 inches tall. That seemed to work out the best.
So in review.. I used the following dimensions for each part:
- Drawer Opening is 4" tall by 16" wide by 19-1/2" deep.
- (4) Drawer slide mounts made out of 1x2 rectangular steel with 2x2 (10 gauge) plates on each end are exactly 19-1/2" long, the exact distance from front of pedestal to the back of it.
- The drawer slide mounts are placed in the center of the opening (on each side) in the front and are level front to back. They are exactly 19-1/2" long total.
- The drawer slide mounts are exactly 15-7/8" apart from each other (per drawer).
- The drawer slides take up 1/2" on each side so the drawer itself is 14-7/8" wide by 3 inches deep by 18-1/2" long. The drawer face will cover the slides if you cut them out carefully.
- The drawer slides are 18", slow closers, 150 pound capacity total.
- The lock mechanisms can be found at any local hardware store and are the typical locking mechanisms found in toolboxes everywhere.
- The handles are window sash handles because sash handles are stronger than typical drawer handles. They look nicer to me too.
- The latching mechanism needed a beefier center on the pedestal in the middle top, so I just measured what was lacking and put a small block of metal (ended up being about 3/8" by 1/2"x3") in the center for the lock. Shim as necessary to ensure your drawer is tight.
More Pictures available at The Site Archive Page!
This article was first published at DevesTechNet.com (c)2015 All Rights Reserved